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did anyone tryed installing Vista and XP on same drive? would something like C:\Windows C:\Program Files and C:\Documents and Settings conflict between XP and VISTA?

Not recommended, at the least they should be on separate volumes/partitions on the same physical drive.
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"unknown" wrote in message

did anyone tryed installing Vista and XP on same drive? would something like C:\Windows C:\Program Files and C:\Documents and Settings conflict between XP and VISTA?

Unknown--
A whole lot of things would conflict if you don't put them on a separate partition or at least folder. Give Vista a clean install on another new partition or drive and avoid a number of problems. Vista's Users is more than just a name different that Documents and Settings in XP. If you like, you can easily dual boot Vista and XP on the same hard drive and that will work fine and you can access the XP desktop from the Vista desktop with a shortcut that would be C:\Documents and Settings\Unknown's Profile\Desktop.
CH

"unknown" wrote in message

did anyone tryed installing Vista and XP on same drive? would something like C:\Windows C:\Program Files and C:\Documents and Settings conflict between XP and VISTA?

Known. It will overwrite XP. XP and Vista can be on the same drive but not in the same partition.
You may see C: when you are in each OS, but they will not be referring to the same physical partition. Each may see its own partition as the C: drive when running.
"Chad Harris" wrote in message

Unknown--
A whole lot of things would conflict if you don't put them on a separate partition or at least folder. Give Vista a clean install on another new partition or drive and avoid a number of problems. Vista's Users is more than just a name different that Documents and Settings in XP. If you like, you can easily dual boot Vista and XP on the same hard drive and that will work fine and you can access the XP desktop from the Vista desktop with a shortcut that would be C:\Documents and Settings\Unknown's Profile\Desktop.
CH

"unknown" wrote in message did anyone tryed installing Vista and XP on same drive? would something like C:\Windows C:\Program Files and C:\Documents and Settings conflict between XP and VISTA?

I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
"unknown" wrote in message

did anyone tryed installing Vista and XP on same drive? would something like C:\Windows C:\Program Files and C:\Documents and Settings conflict between XP and VISTA?

It is never a good idea to install two operating systems on the same partition. It is guaranteed to give you trouble and slim to no chance of both OS's booting and working properly. It's called a parallel install and is only ever done for data backup purposes when you cannot boot to a desktop in the original OS, and usually ends up with an unstable system, broken software pointers, etc etc etc On top of that, it would be pretty frustrating to try to rip one OS off the drive leaving the other intact.
"unknown" wrote in message

did anyone tryed installing Vista and XP on same drive? would something like C:\Windows C:\Program Files and C:\Documents and Settings conflict between XP and VISTA?

I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.

Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
CH


"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message

I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

i did two OSes on the same partitions once. day by day a t=drive or a port would stop working on one OS or another to the point were every port or drive stopped working but i fixed it. it was an interesting experience. "Chad Harris" wrote in message

LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
CH


"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

I understand some people wanting to push the envelop--and I always get a kick out of people who do, and its interesting when they succeed. There are a subset of Windows enthusiasts, Mac lovers, and Linux devotees who try to see how they can run different software on considerably older hardware and what performance they can get out of the hardware. Often these same users also own cutting edge hardware, and they do this because they just love tinkering and they enjoy the challenges. To me that's one interesting thing to do,
But if you're going to take a Beta part way throughj its course to RTM, like Vista 5384.4 (B2), I'd at least give it a clean install in its own space so that it can have a reasonable chance to perform as well as it can at the current point in time when you try it. You'll find enough interesting things you'd like fixed or changed without risking mixing it up with XP.
CH

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message

i did two OSes on the same partitions once. day by day a t=drive or a port would stop working on one OS or another to the point were every port or drive stopped working but i fixed it. it was an interesting experience. "Chad Harris" wrote in message
LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
CH


"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

Also, such configurations are not helpful to MS in bugswatting.
"Chad Harris" wrote in message

I understand some people wanting to push the envelop--and I always get a kick out of people who do, and its interesting when they succeed. There are a subset of Windows enthusiasts, Mac lovers, and Linux devotees who try to see how they can run different software on considerably older hardware and what performance they can get out of the hardware. Often these same users also own cutting edge hardware, and they do this because they just love tinkering and they enjoy the challenges. To me that's one interesting thing to do,
But if you're going to take a Beta part way throughj its course to RTM, like Vista 5384.4 (B2), I'd at least give it a clean install in its own space so that it can have a reasonable chance to perform as well as it can at the current point in time when you try it. You'll find enough interesting things you'd like fixed or changed without risking mixing it up with XP.
CH

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message i did two OSes on the same partitions once. day by day a t=drive or a port would stop working on one OS or another to the point were every port or drive stopped working but i fixed it. it was an interesting experience. "Chad Harris" wrote in message
LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
CH


"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

Yes! very important good point Colin.
CH ___ "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

Also, such configurations are not helpful to MS in bugswatting.
"Chad Harris" wrote in message I understand some people wanting to push the envelop--and I always get a kick out of people who do, and its interesting when they succeed. There are a subset of Windows enthusiasts, Mac lovers, and Linux devotees who try to see how they can run different software on considerably older hardware and what performance they can get out of the hardware. Often these same users also own cutting edge hardware, and they do this because they just love tinkering and they enjoy the challenges. To me that's one interesting thing to do,
But if you're going to take a Beta part way throughj its course to RTM, like Vista 5384.4 (B2), I'd at least give it a clean install in its own space so that it can have a reasonable chance to perform as well as it can at the current point in time when you try it. You'll find enough interesting things you'd like fixed or changed without risking mixing it up with XP.
CH

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message i did two OSes on the same partitions once. day by day a t=drive or a port would stop working on one OS or another to the point were every port or drive stopped working but i fixed it. it was an interesting experience. "Chad Harris" wrote in message
LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
CH


"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

and the pc i did it on was 7 years old too. i did it with xp and 2000. when i install an app on one os it transfered over to the other when i tried running on the os it was not installed on. it was easier to install it on the other one like that then to have to do a new install for the same app with a installer. the program even transfered properly to with still being on the other os. i took advantage of that and moved features from 2000 to xp. maybe i should try that with vista and move vista stuff to xp and xp stuff to vista. maybe i should test vista a bit more and try to make it soi that my technologies will work with vista. then sell it to a big company and make a lot of money off of it. "Chad Harris" wrote in message

I understand some people wanting to push the envelop--and I always get a kick out of people who do, and its interesting when they succeed. There are a subset of Windows enthusiasts, Mac lovers, and Linux devotees who try to see how they can run different software on considerably older hardware and what performance they can get out of the hardware. Often these same users also own cutting edge hardware, and they do this because they just love tinkering and they enjoy the challenges. To me that's one interesting thing to do,
But if you're going to take a Beta part way throughj its course to RTM, like Vista 5384.4 (B2), I'd at least give it a clean install in its own space so that it can have a reasonable chance to perform as well as it can at the current point in time when you try it. You'll find enough interesting things you'd like fixed or changed without risking mixing it up with XP.
CH

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message i did two OSes on the same partitions once. day by day a t=drive or a port would stop working on one OS or another to the point were every port or drive stopped working but i fixed it. it was an interesting experience. "Chad Harris" wrote in message
LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
CH


"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

yea they are, well they can be. "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

Also, such configurations are not helpful to MS in bugswatting.
"Chad Harris" wrote in message I understand some people wanting to push the envelop--and I always get a kick out of people who do, and its interesting when they succeed. There are a subset of Windows enthusiasts, Mac lovers, and Linux devotees who try to see how they can run different software on considerably older hardware and what performance they can get out of the hardware. Often these same users also own cutting edge hardware, and they do this because they just love tinkering and they enjoy the challenges. To me that's one interesting thing to do,
But if you're going to take a Beta part way throughj its course to RTM, like Vista 5384.4 (B2), I'd at least give it a clean install in its own space so that it can have a reasonable chance to perform as well as it can at the current point in time when you try it. You'll find enough interesting things you'd like fixed or changed without risking mixing it up with XP.
CH

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message i did two OSes on the same partitions once. day by day a t=drive or a port would stop working on one OS or another to the point were every port or drive stopped working but i fixed it. it was an interesting experience. "Chad Harris" wrote in message
LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
CH


"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

It's completely unsupported anyway.
"Steven Wabik" wrote in message

yea they are, well they can be. "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Also, such configurations are not helpful to MS in bugswatting.
"Chad Harris" wrote in message I understand some people wanting to push the envelop--and I always get a kick out of people who do, and its interesting when they succeed. There are a subset of Windows enthusiasts, Mac lovers, and Linux devotees who try to see how they can run different software on considerably older hardware and what performance they can get out of the hardware. Often these same users also own cutting edge hardware, and they do this because they just love tinkering and they enjoy the challenges. To me that's one interesting thing to do,
But if you're going to take a Beta part way throughj its course to RTM, like Vista 5384.4 (B2), I'd at least give it a clean install in its own space so that it can have a reasonable chance to perform as well as it can at the current point in time when you try it. You'll find enough interesting things you'd like fixed or changed without risking mixing it up with XP.
CH

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message i did two OSes on the same partitions once. day by day a t=drive or a port would stop working on one OS or another to the point were every port or drive stopped working but i fixed it. it was an interesting experience. "Chad Harris" wrote in message
LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
CH


"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

yea, but at least you learn something from it. "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

It's completely unsupported anyway.
"Steven Wabik" wrote in message yea they are, well they can be. "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Also, such configurations are not helpful to MS in bugswatting.
"Chad Harris" wrote in message I understand some people wanting to push the envelop--and I always get a kick out of people who do, and its interesting when they succeed. There are a subset of Windows enthusiasts, Mac lovers, and Linux devotees who try to see how they can run different software on considerably older hardware and what performance they can get out of the hardware. Often these same users also own cutting edge hardware, and they do this because they just love tinkering and they enjoy the challenges. To me that's one interesting thing to do,
But if you're going to take a Beta part way throughj its course to RTM, like Vista 5384.4 (B2), I'd at least give it a clean install in its own space so that it can have a reasonable chance to perform as well as it can at the current point in time when you try it. You'll find enough interesting things you'd like fixed or changed without risking mixing it up with XP.
CH

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message i did two OSes on the same partitions once. day by day a t=drive or a port would stop working on one OS or another to the point were every port or drive stopped working but i fixed it. it was an interesting experience. "Chad Harris" wrote in message
LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
CH


"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

Oh yes. You do. But MS doesn't learn anything they need to know.
"Steven Wabik" wrote in message

yea, but at least you learn something from it. "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message It's completely unsupported anyway.
"Steven Wabik" wrote in message yea they are, well they can be. "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Also, such configurations are not helpful to MS in bugswatting.
"Chad Harris" wrote in message I understand some people wanting to push the envelop--and I always get a kick out of people who do, and its interesting when they succeed. There are a subset of Windows enthusiasts, Mac lovers, and Linux devotees who try to see how they can run different software on considerably older hardware and what performance they can get out of the hardware. Often these same users also own cutting edge hardware, and they do this because they just love tinkering and they enjoy the challenges. To me that's one interesting thing to do,
But if you're going to take a Beta part way throughj its course to RTM, like Vista 5384.4 (B2), I'd at least give it a clean install in its own space so that it can have a reasonable chance to perform as well as it can at the current point in time when you try it. You'll find enough interesting things you'd like fixed or changed without risking mixing it up with XP.
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"Steven Wabik" wrote in message i did two OSes on the same partitions once. day by day a t=drive or a port would stop working on one OS or another to the point were every port or drive stopped working but i fixed it. it was an interesting experience. "Chad Harris" wrote in message
LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
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"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

one guy from ms did though. i know people from within the company, well one or two. i sent them error reports for the dual booting. and just general issues about xp alone. and they sent them to the proper people in the company so that they would be put to use. i stopped doing after the release of sp2 though because in my opinion it made more issues. i lost support for my custom RAM. i had to fix that issue on my own. at least i got a free copys of windows xp home and pro with embeded sp2 from microsoft out of the inquiry.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

Oh yes. You do. But MS doesn't learn anything they need to know.
"Steven Wabik" wrote in message yea, but at least you learn something from it. "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message It's completely unsupported anyway.
"Steven Wabik" wrote in message yea they are, well they can be. "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message Also, such configurations are not helpful to MS in bugswatting.
"Chad Harris" wrote in message I understand some people wanting to push the envelop--and I always get a kick out of people who do, and its interesting when they succeed. There are a subset of Windows enthusiasts, Mac lovers, and Linux devotees who try to see how they can run different software on considerably older hardware and what performance they can get out of the hardware. Often these same users also own cutting edge hardware, and they do this because they just love tinkering and they enjoy the challenges. To me that's one interesting thing to do,
But if you're going to take a Beta part way throughj its course to RTM, like Vista 5384.4 (B2), I'd at least give it a clean install in its own space so that it can have a reasonable chance to perform as well as it can at the current point in time when you try it. You'll find enough interesting things you'd like fixed or changed without risking mixing it up with XP.
CH

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message i did two OSes on the same partitions once. day by day a t=drive or a port would stop working on one OS or another to the point were every port or drive stopped working but i fixed it. it was an interesting experience. "Chad Harris" <GreenzoneistoIraqlikeOlivegardentoItaly@lol.net wrote in message
LOL Homer "On your Own" is English for MSFT. That puts a huge smile on my face.
It's a beta and a lot doesn't work and although these groups will help, you're on you're own lol anyway. When Vista RTMS, XP is now the support provided to the public who are not part of an enterprise is outsourced to India by the cheapest possible contract MSFT has been able to buy so they aren't involved. It's Convergys of Ohio in India whose trademarks are 1) they can't speak intelligible English 2) Most of them would do well finding the start button if it were magnified 150 X on a good day.
I know you meant this to be even funnier than the Homer J. Simpson comic strips didn't you?
"On your own" Like what the hell is the definition of "not on your own with MFST." Reparations for SFC not working? Reparations because SR won't manufacture restore points when it should? Reparations because the Volume Shadow service has not been configured to maintain Vista Restore Points when someone goes to an XP booot on a dual or multiboot--which is not just a Beta phenomenon any more?
If we're not "on our own" can you please show me any comprehensive documentation where MSFT has lifted a finger to put anything on their site on the major modality to fix Vista Windows RE? Do you see any documentation on System Restore which btw can be reached outside of Windows via Win RE but has not been mentioned in this context once by anyone helping on this group because they don't know how or where to find out what Win RE is in depth?
Beam up all the links for documentation on Vista SFC that can destroy your registry, Vista System Restore, and Windows Repair Environment since Homer, lol MSFT doesn't have Homer on his own!!!
CH


"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message I have actually done that, I installed an earlier release of Vista in the same partition as XP. But if you wish to delete Vista from the XP partition, you can have a lot of problems with permissions and protected operating system files. Not recommended.
Even if you can get it to work, it's not a scenario supported by MS...in other words, if it screws something up (and it probably will sooner rather than later), you're on your own.

Gee man, all I said was that it wasn't an officially supported scenario as per the standard definition in the software world. Chill already.

I'm sure you have to partition it, even the lowliest OSes like Ubuntu Linux and Debian need partitioning now. And BTW, how much free space do you need for the Vista Install? I heard it was around 15 gigs but I need to verify.
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System requirements page:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capable.mspx 15GB free on a 40GB hard drive. That's what it says.
"CaffieneAddict" wrote in message

I'm sure you have to partition it, even the lowliest OSes like Ubuntu Linux and Debian need partitioning now. And BTW, how much free space do you need for the Vista Install? I heard it was around 15 gigs but I need to verify.
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